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will be speaking about the so-called fiscal cliff and that is a reduction -- and deficit reduction. we will have that live here on c-span at 11:30 a.m. eastern. over at the white house today, president obama is meeting with small business owners. at 12:30, jay carney will hold a press briefing and take questions from reporters. this afternoon, the president and vice president will meet with the mexican president who takes office december 1. the press briefing today at 12:30. on capitol hill, the house of representatives returns today at 2:00 p.m. eastern on their agenda this afternoon five bills including a measure requiring the department of a homeland security to report on security. later this week, a student visa program. also this week, the democratic leadership elections. that will be coming up later this week. live coverage of the house at 2:00 p.m. eastern. a number of senators have been meeting with u.n. ambassador susan rice in the wake of her comments following the attack on the benghazi consulate. just wrapping up is a brief news conference and statement with senators. here is a look.
. it is still about three times the average deficit under bush. let us go back to the clinton tax era. eileen anywhere between republican and libertarian. up -- yes i am not. i lean anywhere between republican and a libertarian. host: what do you make of republicans up on capitol hill -- to sort of a back off the tax pledge that he took when he ran for senate, saying he would not raise taxes. caller: if we are going to raise taxes my important thing is raising them on everybody. because if they try to strike a compromise where only the rich get taxed, then it gets more progressive. it is not a point to help the budget. we are right to raise taxes, raise them all the way down to where clinton had them. host: senators lindsey gramm represented peter king, talking publicly abandoning the pledge of democrats will talk seriously about entitlement reforms. rest in peace, grover norquist? there are not enough republican tax hikes -- republicans to hike taxes for obama. the left is doing its best to make tax hikes appear to be a foregone conclusion. that is their take on tax hikes. eddie, on our line
no problem. medicaid no problem. i don't know, one trillion deficit no problem. >> markets are falli ining dean. take a look. i don't understand this. attitude. i'm not hearing it from the president. no, first of all, interest rates are low because we have had a weak economy. as far as the debt goes, listen to dean, i'm sure that he believes that the only real problem phafacing the country a the capitol gains. i think we do have a debt problem i think we have a big debt problem. the numbers in the 20s, 30s, look horrifying and we have a huge job and growth problem. i don't understand how taking dividends from 15-43 creates jobs that closes that. >> i don't see spending cuts. it won't matter. the economy collapsed and the housing bubble collapsed. make them pay zero taxes. the search goes inside out. none of it finds that it will create any of those jobs. the government has no choice. >> that is quite an experiment. that you are willing to run with 1 or 2%. from 15 to 25. we are going to taking it from 15 to 30. >> we have been there. >> you are taking the rate on capital which we have the
puts forward his plan. how is he going to close the other part of that deficit? you know, his proposal right now, the most he can say would raise would be about $68 billion when our deficit last year was $90 billion. what is the president's plan for closing the additional additional $1 trillion worth of deficit? i think that's incumbent on the president to put forward his plan. >> from your standpoint alone, there's no way you see fit in the coming 35 days that you would break that pledge with glove norquist. >> well, thomas, let's use a couple numbers here. even with this measly economic growth we've seen the last three years, revenue at the federal government has increased $344 billion per year. if we just return to a normal economy that returns about 18.5%, that would increase revenue an additional over $400 billion per year, that's $750 billion of revenue per year through economic growth. and the president, his proposal would raise 1/10 of that but would put at risk the economic growth and that $750 billion. so -- >> sir, with all due respect, though -- >> counterproductive. >> tha
it into the unified budget to mass of the overall deficit. the trust fund will run -- to mask the overall deficit. it was a nice tax breaks for low income seniors. that was stealing from that trust fund. we call it the social security fund. there is no trust in my estimation. host: this is from the huffy to post a business section. earlier this week-- huffington post business section. older americans are in the cross hairs. when congress returns for a lame-duck session, stocks will keep up -- talks will heat up and there may be reinvigorated discussions on a grand bargain. the last time that happens, president obama considered a proposal favored by republicans to extend the eligibility for medicare to 67. as a guy who turned 65, your thoughts about extending the eligibility for medicaid to 67. guest: if you are younger, you are not thinking about it. i think it would be prudent to do that for the health of the country in the future of the people. obviously, if you are at or near 65, you cannot do it. the thing i wonder is, as part of this whole situation, why is there no effort to really, really
a long-term deficit reduction deal. grover norquist was on cnn on friday responding to senator chambliss' comments. let's listen to what grover norquist had to say. [video clip] >> the commitment he made to the people of georgia was not to me. it was a commitment to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and to reform government and not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, need to have that conversation with the people of georgia. he talks about my plan to increase debt, the only plan i think i supported is the paul ryan deal, which reduces the deficit, pays down the debt, does not raise taxes, and it is a written plan that senator chambliss actually voted for. so i think they caught him on a tv station and he said something scraps that did not make sense. >> have you thought about changing the pledged in any way? >> again, i cannot change the pledge, because t it is,o me. it is not like people are promising this to me. >> it was your group. everybody associates the pledge
" and he joins me now. thanks for being with us now. we appreciate it. you compare the deficit to an insurance policy. you say it doesn't make you any richer in the short-term, but in the long-term, it is helpful. i want to actually put your statements up. you say let's agree to keep deficits very high for at least another year. and then let's buy an insurance policy against that debt crisis when we can really afford it. so lots of republicans and democrats out there would disagree greatly with you. say that america's ability to pay its debt is really important. how would you respond to them? >> right. i do think that there's a thing that's taken place in washington deficit reduction will stimulate us to enormous growth in 2013. the fact is what deficit reduction is, is tax increases and spending cuts, both of which take economic activity out of the economy. so this really is extremely similar to insurance. if i buy, say, flood insurance. what i'm doing is i'm paying a short premium in the short-term, to protect my house in the long-term. that's exactly what deficit reduction i
approach to reducing the nation's deficit. let's bring in our panel. mary katharine ham editor-at-large of hot air.com and fox news contributor. peter mirijanian former advisor to the clinton-gore and gore-lieberman campaigns. when the president arrives at the white house to speak, he will have people behind him, ordinary americans who reached out to the white house and want their $2,000 middle class tax cut preserved. republicans are saying this is essentially a campaign stunt, a campaign appearance kind of event of the he won the election. he should get on the business of governing. what do you say? >> well, one quick observation, jon. i think what you're seeing, what i think is interesting the first social media presidency. this administration using technology and using social media to advance their agenda. but look, all presidents do this. george w. bush after his re-election famously said he has now the political capital he intend to use. so going to the public and going sort of over the head of congress is something democratic and republican presidents always do what they
senator pat toomey from pennsylvania. he was a member of the deficit reduction super committee last year that failed to agree on a plan. but he's been talking about this issue for a long, long time. good morning, senator. >> good morning. >> we just learned that president obama will be traveling to your backyard on friday to talk about the fiscal cliff and spending, and traveling to pennsylvania right now. is this a welcome visit as far as you're earned? >> as far as i'm concerned the president of the united states is always welcome in my state of pennsylvania. we welcome the president and look forward to his message, and i have some questions i'd like to-ish i hope he addresses. >> what questions? >> first of all the president seems absolutely determined to inflict a tax increase on the american people. two years ago he signed a bill that extended the current tax rates for two more years because he said the last thing you want to do is raise taxes in a weak economy. today the economy is weaker than it was two years ago. why in the world does he want to inflict that damage now? >> senato
over the next ten years. that's about 40% of the $4 trillion deficit goal that we have. that's the same thing that simpson-bowles had, 40% revenue. so the only way you can reach that, incidentally, is to allow the rates to go up. just this idea of we're going to take a look at the tax code, change some credits and deductions, you can't come up with enough money. >> so any deal will have to include at least some hike in the tax rate. >> i don't think there's any other way to approach it. that's why the president has taken this position. if we're going to make sure, for example, that we spare families making $250,000 a year or less from any income tax increase, then this idea that we're going to go into the tax code and find $1.6 trillion over ten years becomes almost impossible. we need to protect those middle income families. >> you said today that congress should deal with the fiscal cliff crisis now, but tackle entitlements, the entitlement questions, later. yesterday, senator lamar alexander said the only thing the president has to do to get an agreement from republicans now is in hi
and be on the group with a group of bipartisan business leaders and deficit hawks getting something done, meeting with republicans and democrats. do you have any more optimism let me point out you and your pal erskine bowles, he was quoted as saying he's more pessimistic something will be accomplished. >> my poor dear partner, bloodied but unvowed, six months ago erskine was saying i think we can get there. now, he's pessimistic. would be a word. we were just with a group go big or go home, democrats and republicans alike, they've got signatures of over 200 -- 102 house members, half of the senate working for us, equally divided on both sides, you have to have something bipartisan. you can write it on a single sheet of paper if it had firewalls and triggers, and if it were just signed by an equal number of democrats and republicans, the markets would lay off of us. if they continue to see this dead-head struggling, the same old stuff, they're going to punish us. when they do the guy that will get hurt is the little guy, middle class, inflation, interest rates, that's who gets hammered. what an ir
which means lowering tax rates not necessarily deficit reduction. it is the same policy romney had. it is where they were before the election. they gotta wake up and see the election, change things and they actually have to meet democrats somewhere in the middle. >> bill: i would hope. i would hope. new york times this morning, front page of the business section in terms of closing loopholes, romney was never specific about which one. new york times is saying that they know -- now we know one of the ones they're targeting. the headline is a tax break once sacred is now seen as vulnerable. what they're talking about is the mortgage interest deduction. there was no doubt it is on the table. it is one they're targeting rather than raise tax rates on the wealthy, they're going to either limit or get rid of the mortgage interest deduction. which is the most popular one. >> the most popular one. politically difficult i think. that's really the problem with romney's entire approach that said we'll just create revenue
interest deduction cap from a million dollars to $500,000 say it will help cut the deficit, keep interest rates low, and that could help the housing market all by itself. dean reynolds, cbs news, chicago. >> u.n. ambassador susan rice returns to capitol hill today her meeting with lawmakers yesterday to discuss her explanation of the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya didn't go over very well. she met with three republican senators strongly opposed to her possible nomination to be secretary of state. they were not satisfied with her explanation. >> all i can tell you is that the concerns that i have are greater today than they were before and we're not even close to getting the basic answer. >> following the benghazi attack rice said the assault grew out of a protest and not a terrorist attack. yesterday she said that was incorrect. that there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. >>> overseas now in egypt the largest crowd yet have turned out to demonstrate against president morsi's declaration of wide ranging new powers. hundreds of thousands of protesters in cairo's tahrir sq
on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way, including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more so we can invest in training, education, science, and research. now, i know some of this may sound familiar to you because we talked a lot about this during the campaign. this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. this was a major debate in the presidential campaign and in congressional campaigns all across the country and a clear majority of americans, not just democrats but also a lot of republicans and a lot of independents agreed we should have a balanced approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy and doesn't hurt middle class families. and i'm glad to see, if you've been reading the papers lately, that more and more republicans in congress seem to be agreeing with this idea that we should have a balanced approach. so if both parties agree we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. the senate's already passed a bill that keeps income taxes from going up
.m. majority whip dick durbin will talk about the so-called fiscal cliff and deficit reduction at the center for american progress. fiscal cliff, a combination of those expiring tax provisions and budget cuts that could take place the beginning of the new you. they include the bush-era tax cuts and sequestration. live coverage starts at 1130 eastern also on c-span. we are likely to about the fiscal cliff during the senate session today getting underway at 10 a.m. eastern, just over a half hour from now. after the gavel and majority leader reid will be recognized to speak and will likely outlined the schedule for the day which could include debate on defense programs and policy, and possibly legislation to do with equal rights, people with disabilities. centers will us from 12:30-2:15 eastern for weeks the party meetings. live coverage of the senate and members gavel in right here on c-span2. right now some debate from the floor of the senate yesterday between majority leader reid and republican leader mitch mcconnell. d, w they talkede about potentialit't changes to filibuster rules. here's
with a billion specified and the rest not and the 6 trillion-dollar deficit with the goal set up plus the one, 6 trillion-dollar tax increase or five particularly since the spending cuts have been agreed to by the democrats and obama included. he knows he is and for that and then the republicans offer to put them into subsequent savings from the budget control act. when they spent nine months discussion from simpson-bowles which is a tax increase and hints that the tax reform and its spending reform and when we finally went into the room to see what they came up with they didn't have legislative language that should have taken two weeks but they didn't have anything. they didn't have anything in nine months. why? because it isn't real. people say this imaginary agreement that isn't written down over the massive tax increase and the spending, simpson-bowles is a distraction from the fact that the two parties fundamentally disagree on the country, and this is where we have people who tell you why don't we have the good old days of bipartisan compromise telling you how old they are? because they ar
those cuts go in definition and else places, there will be $560 billion cut in the deficit but a 4% cut in the gdp throwing us technically right into recession. is that you're belief if we don't do anything between now and january 1st this country will go into recession, jared? >> it is my belief if we go over the cliff and stay over the cliff. if we're able to hammer out a deal, even if that deal isn't completely stamped and approved on january 1st, there is the possibility of a very temporary trip over the fiscal slope, if you will, and then a reversal. but if we go over the cliff and stay over the cliff i'm pretty sure we'd be looking at recession. >> what about the impact on world markets and money markets in new york, et cetera, et cetera, what would it do about the confidence of the united states' ability to deal with fiscal matters, if we go over the cliff in any way? >> yes. if you look at those markets today you'll see they're pricing in a solution. that's why treasury bills have a yield of 1.6%, historical low. if those markets believed, as i described it, a deal was in the of
.s. economy back into a recession. both congress and the white house are trying to make a deficit reduction deal to avoid the financial chaos. and president obama's reverting to some campaign mode right now to try to make sure things are done his way. our white house correspondent dan lothian is joining us now with new information. what are you learning, dan? >> reporter: well, wolf, while senior members of the administration including secretary geithner, chief of staff jack lou also top advisor meeting with -- the president himself trying to sell his vision to the public, but some say it's not a winning strategy. it doesn't take a gps to find the way to the fiscal cliff. much more difficult, finding the off ramp. at the president's first meeting with congressional leaders more than a week ago, there was a sense of optimism. >> my hope is is that this is going to be the beginning of a fruitful process. >> reporter: there was a follow-up phone call with house speaker john boehner, but a much different approach this week. the president's calendar is packed with sales pitches to the public, wh
government costs. so as we deal with all of the issues of the debt and deficit, i want to make sure that everybody's keeping her and children like her and her mother and her father and her family in mind and making cuts that really make sense and avoiding cuts that absolutely make no sense, that don't save money, and certainly don't make our country any better. the investments that we make help children remain healthy, achieve success in school, and become productive members of society. so while we all agree we want to tackle our fiscal challenges, we want to make sure that we take the kind of balanced and sensible approach that reduces our deficit, puts our fiscal house in order, but protects the health of women and children and families. so we should all agree, both sides of the aisle, that while we want to increase revenue to tackle our budget deficits, and ask those who can afford to pay wealthier individuals, and profitable corporations to pay their fair share, so that we don't ask children and families to bear the burden. this little girl certainly had nothing to do with creat
budget is on an unsustainable path. the budget deficit which peaked at about 10% of gdp in 2009 and now is 7% of gdp is expected to narrow further in the coming years as the economy continues to recover. the cbo projects that under a plausible set of assumptions, the budget deficit would still be greater than 4% of gdp in 2018, assuming the economy has returned with potential by then. moreover, under the cbo projection, could deficit and raise your federal debt to gdp would subsequently returned to an upward trend. we should all understand that long-term projections of ever increasing deficits will never actually come to pass because the willingness of plunder to continue to fund the government can only be sustained by irresponsible fiscal plans and actions. host: that was ben bernanke at the economic club of new york yesterday. looking for your confidence in the u.s. economy. already getting some comments on facebook -- abroad we are taking your comments on twitter, facebook, and calls. we start with joseph from maryland on the democratic line. thanks for joining us. caller: good morni
and we'll have another trillion dollar deficit according to cbo moving into next year and we can't afford anymore like that. if we take what obama would be willing to support which is increase in the age of, again recipients and other type of reforms like that, then we have a legitimate negotiation as we move into it. but when you have liberal members of the democratic party stepping forward and saying before the process begins they will not accept any type of entitlement reform, it makes it untenable process from the beginning. jon: is it no entitlement reform, simon, or is it perhaps entitlement reform when it comes to medicare? i haven't heard anybody talk about reforming social security on democratic side? >> that is good question and i think, look i think we're in the early stages, chris, of this whole debate. eric cantor went on morning joe said and won't raise taxes on anybody under any circumstance which would you argue is stopping negotiations. both sides are laying out positions right now. there are negotiations going on. clearly the fiscal cliff is scaring everybody into action
a dent in the deficit or the national debt. the government is a ravenous beast. jon: that is the point, that monica makes. even if you take the tax rates back for the richest americans to where president obama says today really should be, you're really not going to take care of the national debt in a significant way. >> no, you're not. but, you know, these republicans that talk about this today, most of them voted in the senate and the house for the medicare prescription drug plan under or george bush. that exploded the deficit tremendously. both of them voted for two wars, even if you think they were necessary, with no offsetting revenue to fund those wars. when you have spending like that that these republicans backed ten years ago, never had a problem with, and all of a sudden now they're saying we've got principles, you know, where were these principles ten years ago? >> first of all, fiscal conservatives like me were screaming at president bush and others who went down -- >> but where was the primary for those people? >> but remember, remember, the deficit that president bush left
and the deficit. mr. carney says, quote, the american people matter in stopping the fiscal cliff and budget cuts that will take effect in january if congress doesn't act. >> ok. good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. welcome to the james s. brady white house briefing room, i believe we have some visitor fres this united arab emirate here, i want to welcome you and thank you for being here. i have just a couple of thins i want to announce at the top, some of which you know about, others you may not. today, as enge you know they can president is meeting with small business owners -- let me back up. it is not happening right now. i believe it happens -- 2:30 i'm reliably informed. he'll be meeting with small business owners as part of discussing with them the importance of extending tax cuts for the middle class or 98% of american taxpayers because of the impact that raising taxes on 98% would have on businesses around the country. he will also discuss with them the measures that he has put forward to assist small businesses, including hiring tax credits and the like, that will help the engine of ou
viewers to know you have balanced -- balanced two previous budgets if not more, you have closed deficit holes of more than 4 billion dollars. you have had success. >> we went from a 4.2 billion dollars deficit to two one time budgets with no tax increases. but we have pensions that are eating up a good portion of the budget that we're going to have to address. if all of a sudden this federal money that has been coming to the state and going down to the local communities is cut off, we're going to have to sit back and say what services can we provide and what services are going to disappear? but what concerns me more is the unemployment that it's going to create. i think the cbo has said that unemployment could go over 9%. liz: you're ahead of the national average higher actually. >> we created some tax incentives to bring the petrochemical industry, the plastics industry near that facility, that would create thousands of jobs more. we believe we could reindustrialize southwestern and western pennsylvania, if we're able to move this forward, but the economy as you know certainly can have
and that is however we try to deal with the deficit it has to be balanced and it has to call on wealth the wemt iest americans to do their share, and that's all we're looking for, so i think people are dreaming if they think we're going to get a deal on entitlements in three weeks. that is not going to happen and i think it would be irresponsible to try to come up with any approach to entitlement reform in such a compressed period of time. >> reasonably what do you think can get done in the next three to five weeks until the first of the year? >> i think we can head off the problem with everybody's taxes going up. the senate has already passed a bill extending the tax cuts for 98% of the american people. that's a real easy one if speaker boehner can deliver maybe 30, 35 votes. i think we would be happy to pass that and avert that huge tax increase at the end of the year or beginning of next year and we can extend the spending limits and delay the across the board cuts until a more comprehensive balanced approach is negotiated. >> senator bob corker is putting out a plan that includes a trillion doll
and economic impact and we're concerned about that. but when we're dealing with the debt and deficit, no matter what we do, in terms of raising taxes or cutting spending, it has a negative impact but we're running a 40% deficit year in and year out. we have to long term get that better aligned. >>> you're going to get the question, does congress know where the deal is going to come on fiscal cliff ultimately and this is all just posturing? you really don't? >> absolutely not. look, we've been dealing with this for a long time and for every dollar in tacks that you're willing to spend, how do you cure that appetite in an instance? we have hard work ahead of us, no question. >> the rebel group known as m-23 took over a major city. they have plans to move on the capital. it's part of a very bloody, bloody regional war. it's seen atrocity on both sides. it's cost millions of lives. you've been very vocal about it. what should the u.s. be doing here? >> this is the greatest humanitarian crisis that nobody has ever heard of. somewhere between 3 to 4 million people have been killed in the last few yea
does not address the debt problem. we don't know how much we address the deficit problem by closing loopholes. impasse. martha: we'll see where that goes. stuart, thanks very much. we'll talk to chris van hollen moments away. bob,er is also here today. we'll get to some of that with them. thanks, stuart. bill: some context from how far the revenue ending bush tax cuts would go. during the 2012 fiscal year it costs $9.7 billion a day to run the federal government. the additional revenue stopping bush tax cuts would bring in $82.4 billion. a number that would run the government for 8 1/2 days. senator corker says there is plan on the table for two years. martha: that grand bargain that was so close. we'll see where that is in terms of both sides. bill:. we're just getting started on this tuesday morning. how about this story? oh, my gosh, a toddler seconds away from almost certain death in this video as a car comes barreling around that bend. we'll show you what the rest of what happens here and we'll tell you what ended up happening. bill: there is new violence on the streets of key
wants to see. it is a $4 billion package of cuts to the deficit a combination of spending cuts and new revenue and about $2 trillion of that coming from getting rid of the bush tax cuts. at the same time while getting rid of the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of americans letting the tax cuts for 98% of americans continue because the middle class do need the help and the wealthiest people do not. so to get there of course, and by the way let's back up, right. the president put forth his plan on november 6th and mitt romney put forth his plan and the american people said no, we don't like that romney way of going which is to continue to coddle the rich. we agree with president obama. so now the negotiations are underway. about how to avoid going off the fiscal cliff. and what is the president doing? yesterday, he met with small business leaders. at the white house. the white house met with leaders of jack lew, the chief of staff. met with leaders of the chamber of commerce. today the president is meeting with so
've been working to develop a deficit reduction plan. let me just ask you how you feel right now. 11 days since the president's met with congressional leaders face-to-face, do you think there needs to be more meetings like that right now? >> well, i think the president is doing the right thing. he's got to make the case to congress and the american people. not only of the dire consequences if we go over the cliff, but actually the tremendous upside. and one of the things we don't focus on enough, if we get a real deal, the amount of private capital that will come off the sidelines, invest in this country, we look pretty darn good compared to the faltering economy in europe, the slowdown in china. you know, this could actually be the biggest job generator of anything that's been talked about recently. >> one thing i'm confused by and maybe concerned by also, though, is something that you know well. that the outlines of a deal are pretty clear. there are different options, there are choices, there are tweaks around the edge, but the outlines of the deal are there. and two weeks ago, everyon
, is hurting our own federal deficit. so i think scott walker is someone who can say, look, i've done this, it was not easy, and i succeeded. as far as democrats are concerned, it's really a far less wide-open race, i think, than with republicans, simply because you have this hillary clinton decision out there, whether she does or doesn't. if she doesn't, i think you might have some democrats saying, you know, we won with the senator the last timing, but that's really, really unusual. governors are good. and martin o'malley of maryland, brian schweitzer of montana are two possibilities. >> greta: i think governor o'malley, a big choice, obviously someone people have their eyes on, but also cory booker, a mayor on the democratic side from newark, new jersey. we'll see a lot of corey booker. on the republican side, a woman, governor, suzanna martinez from the state of new mexico. i think she's someone to keep our eye on, because i think her speech at the republican national convention was one that wowed somebody. >> open races on both sides, which makes it fun. >> or joe biden. >> greta: tha
care system dropped from 64% to 55%. to go over to the budget, substantially reduce the budget deficit. 42% thought the obama administration would be able to do that in 2008. avoid raising taxes. control illegal immigration. heal political divisions in this country. 54% thought so in 2008. bob in north carolina on are democrats' line. you are up next. caller: i just think it is going to be better coming up this next time because i believe obama it did need a second chance. i voted for him. i am a native american and i lived on a cherokee indian reservation. we have to balance our budget. our leaders serve four years just like the president does. we make our budget work. if we don't have the money, we don't do it. that is all i got to tell you. host: jacqueline pata is going to be on later in this program. how would you describe the conditions where you live? caller: we have a heritage casino down here and it does a lot for us. we send all of our kids to college. we pay for it all. they can go to college anywhere in the united states. host: indian gaming has helped urination? caller: ve
billion a year and would pay ian volving credit but it doesn't touch our deficit or balance our budget and the other thing that is important they have to get something in return. we'll put it up on the clinton rates and not touch medicare or medicaid? it is all part of the deal. >> gretchen: once you get people back to the table. it is it like a marriage, marriages don't work when one party said i will not budge on anything. >> brian: i hope my wife is listening. >> steve: we are in the let's make a deal stage. both sides want to appear flexibility when it comes to doing something. we aapparently the president of the united states. the week after thanksgiving nothing is scheduled. but we understand that the top aides are working together to do something. who is leading the charge for the white house? tim geithner. it is interesting, in the beginning, during the confirmation it was revealed he did not file taxes properly and people say is he qualified to be the treasury of the secretary. according to the wall street journal. they work with him and like him. and jack lu who did it last t
or have less of a deficit is to let the economy grow. raising tax rates on rich people will not help the economy grow. in fact, it will send the economy in the wrong direction. >> i understand. i know you signed a pledge and you're sticking to that pledge with regard to the people you represent. so let me move on and ask you this, senator. you have indicated you are interested in running for president. tell me this, here, how exactly -- how interested are you and have you taken -- i know you smile because you've been asked it before, but let me ask you as well, have you taken any concrete actions to start lining up support? honest answer, please. >> well, you know, i've said i won't deny that i'm interested. little bit different than i am interested. >> let's read between the lines. what does that mean, sir? >> i want to be part of the national debate. i think my party, the republican party is shrinking. we're in danger of becoming a dinosaur. we're not competitive on the west coast. we're not competitive in new england. we weren't competitive around the great lakes. so we need a new
, unbelievable, it is up to half a billion dollars. >> probably going to be as large as the deficit by next week. seems like everyone is buying tickets unless sadly you live in one of those states -- tsk, tsk -- those eight states that don't take part in powerball. >> you should move. >> it is un-american. >> these are some of the many called powerball refugees. many live in california. doesn't allow you to buy powerball. they have crossed the state line into arizona to buy tickets. powerball not played in california, nevada, utah, wyoming, mississippi, and alabama. >> imagine, california, huge state. imagine if they can get in the mix, the jackpot would be incredible. ooh. all that powerball jack pot, the topic of our facebook question yesterday. >> we wanted to know what would you do with all that prize money? vanessa said, buy a home where my family lives, donate to alzheimers research, help those who've helped me, help some homeless people, donate to a veterans home, feed hungry children. why don't you try solving world peace, too, vanessa. that is very altruistic of you. kudos. >> joseph, i
deficit. and i know we have seen this morning also several editorial writers indicate the same, that it is important that we put these drivers of the deficit on the table and include them as part of any agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. as the speaker said, we have done our part. we have put revenues on the table, something that we didn't do two years ago during the debt ceiling negotiations. we still believe that it is most important for us to address the economic situation in this country where so many people are out of work. and that's why we take the position and believe strongly that increasing marginal rates is income tax rates is not the way to produce growth and to put people back to work. but we have not seen any good faith effort on the part of this administration to talk about the real problem that we're trying to fix. i'm told that mr. bolz, some of us will meet with him later today, has said earlier this morning that there's been no serious discussion by the white house on entitlements on medicare and medicaid. this has to be a part of this agreement or else we
president obama was first elected he talked about how to bring down the deficit and campaign promise to cut it in half and he would do it by focusing on entitlement reform. >> steve: there is the national debt right now. >> gretchen: why doesn't he bring the people to the table and say dick dishin. let's put it all on the table and let's talk about them instead of going out on air force one and getting people to use twitter >> chris: the american society of pensional they have a warning called. if congress does change yourr tax rate, there is a possibility that you might have big changes to your 401 k. last time congress made changes in congress. 70 percent of the 401 k contributions droppped and the worry is people will stop putting in and we'll stop save that is never good. >> brian: we are not supposed to be able to tax that. and we'll be able to get it out when we are 81 years old. and the other stories making news. brand new video out of syria show rebels shooting down a military helicopter. you can hear them chanting allah is great. and the chopper plunges to the ground and first time
deficit with the goals set up plus the one. $6 trillion tax increase or five. particularly since the spending cuts have been agreed to buy none of the democrats. we do know obama included -- he said nice things about simpson- bowles. there are some spending restraints. not a single one of those ideas was put into obama's budget, not one. we know he is not for any of that. when republicans offered to put them into subsequent savings from the budget control act, the democrats all objected. they are officially against every saving -- every saving discussed in simpson-bowles. so, when they spent nine months discussing simpson-bowles, a $5 trillion tax increase and hint at tax reform and spending reform, and when they finally went into the room to see what they came up with, they did not have legislative language which it of taken two weeks and then -- done by staffers. a pilot typewritten -- pile of typewritten pages that the says "all work and no play makes jack a bellboy" if you watch the movie. nothing in nine months. it is not real. people say this imaginary agreement that is not
to see them try different things. first of all, let's recognize the fact that we had the deficits right now as a result of obama's budget. that's $5.3 trillion. that's in his budget. he signed that. we have a lot of the programs that should be undone. give you an example, we had a democrat president back in the '90s, bill clinton, while we had a republican majority in the house and the senate. we did welfare reform. we put the work back into welfare and it was tremendously successful. we decreased the welfare rolls. now, obama's reversed that. now we have it's gone up, the food stamp program now gone up from 28 million families to 47 million. that's just one of the things that can be reversed, that got news this mess to start with. >> gretchen: but senator, why does it appear -- and obviously the election was a result of it -- why does it appear that president obama wins the pr campaign on this entire discussion? >> well, gretchen, i represent oklahoma. he hasn't won up there. >> gretchen: but he's winning it acrossment country. >> well, i know, he's a very persuasive person. that doesn
a handle on the deficit. it also has a lot of people saying wait a minute. some of these decisions could really impact -- and not a good way -- have a huge impact on the poor and elderly. for ceo lloyd blankfein, he did an interview over the weekend with cbs and made the case that the social safety net programs need to be scaled back like medicare, medicaid and social security. he says people need to lower their expectations of those sboi entitlements. easy for him to say. he made about $12 million last year. i digress. he did con socede that eventual the way to raise revenue will be for the wealthy to pay a higher tax rate. david coney is talking about addressing the entitlement issue but wants a corporate tax rate of zero. no doubt that would create huge outrage. he says that's the most effective way to create jobs in the u.s. and frees up so much money for companies to hire. many would probably agree that's important, too. you can see both sides of the story there, carol. one more extreme than the other, of course. >> of course. we'll see what happens. alison kosik at the new york sto
we can solve our long-term debt and deficit problem is to fix the unsustainable growth rates of our very popular entitlement programs. the president has indicated an openness to that and now's the time to actually do it. and i hope we can put all this divisiveness behind us and build the confidence and relationships on a bipartisan basis, which would help us get there here at the end of the year. >> the president and leader reid said social security should be off the table. what's your reaction to that? >> all of the entitlements need to be discussed, because they all to one degree or another are on an unsustainable path. medicare is in more immediate danger. we want to save these programs and i understand the dilemma that the president and the majority leader have. they don't want to change anything. they think any commitment made by the federal government on any program at any time ought to be there forever. well, times change. and until we make sure these popular entitlement programs fit the demographics of the changing america, we can't save them. we all know that. it's simple m
penny to the deficit. we should put together something like a simpson/bowles commission. right now it's going to last for another 22 years untouched, but let's make sure it's stronger, longer. but when it comes to the other entitlement programs, medicare and medicaid, we've got to make certain that we preserve these basic programs, not to go the route of the paul ryan voucherizing, leaving senioring vulnerable for health insurance they cannot find or cannot afford. but make sure we change the program to save the money, reduce the increase in health care costs. medicaid is the one i'll add, joe, that concerns me the most. it has the least politically articulate constituency. these are the poorest people in america. we've got to make sure at the end of the day, we protect the children, mothers with babies, and particularly the frail elderly being covered by medicaid. we can make changes there and preserve the basic integrity of these programs. >> well, of course, people in medicaid don't have the aarp fighting for them day in and day out, running 30-second ads. isn't that one of the gre
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